Why We’ve Decided to Tell You the Criminal Records of the Men Shot in Kenosha

Joseph Rosenbaum & Anthony Huber Criminal Records Explored

We’ve decided to tell you the criminal histories of the three men who were shot in Kenosha, Wisconsin. Here’s why.

We think the public is entitled to know all of the context to properly understand what unfolded that night. The Kenosha County District Attorney has charged Kyle Rittenhouse, 17, with first-degree intentional homicide in the shooting death of Anthony M. Huber; with first-degree reckless homicide in the shooting death of Joseph D. Rosenbaum; and with attempted first-degree intentional homicide for wounding Gaige Grosskreutz. Read the criminal complaint here. Rittenhouse’s attorney says he acted in self defense when attacked by what the lawyer called a vicious mob. You can read the lawyer’s statement here.

(Note: See some of our other exclusives here, including video of arson suspects starting a Kenosha business on fire, and an eyewitness who says he saw a man with a walkie talkie directing carloads of people right before the arson fires broke out. We also found shell casings Kenosha police missed at the first Rittenhouse shooting scene.Wisconsin’s largest newspaper, The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, argued that readers shouldn’t get to know the shot men’s criminal records. Read our column explaining why they’re wrong here.)


Joseph Rosenbaum, Anthony Huber & Gaige Grosskreutz Criminal Records Explored

The media have largely sanitized the criminal histories of these three men. Rosenbaum was a registered sex offender who was out on bond for a domestic abuse battery accusation and was caught on video acting aggressively earlier that night. Huber was a felon convicted in a strangulation case who was recently accused of domestic abuse. Grosskreutz was convicted of a crime for use of a firearm while intoxicated and was armed with a handgun when shot. You can read their criminal records in full later in this article.

Newly released documents obtained by Wisconsin Right Now from the Pima County (Arizona) Clerk of Courts confirm Rosenbaum was charged by a grand jury with 11 counts of child molestation and inappropriate sexual activity with children, including anal rape. The victims were five boys ranging in age from nine to 11 years old. He was convicted of two amended counts as part of a plea deal. See those documents here.

Here’s a video that shows Rosenbaum acting aggressively shortly before the shooting. He’s in the red shirt.

To be clear, we don’t think the criminal history of everyone shot and killed is relevant in crime stories. We also don’t believe that anyone deserves to be shot because they have a criminal history, and that’s true of these three men. We also acknowledge that human beings are complex, and the men surely had good aspects to their personalities. What makes their criminal histories relevant for the public to at least consider: The three men who were shot had placed themselves in the midst of a scene of violent unrest that, for days, included lawless anarchy (there were arson fires in the area that night too), and the suspect is on video saying earlier that he was there to prevent damage to people and property. All three men were confronting Rittenhouse when shot and two were trying to grab his gun; in the first case, Rittenhouse was running away, and in the second situation, he tried to but fell. That’s from the criminal complaint.

Rosenbaum was also caught on video using a racial slur earlier that night. “Shoot me (n word),” he says in the video.

Multiple eyewitnesses told Wisconsin Right Now at the scene that they believe Rittenhouse was arguing with men who were starting an arson fire before the shootings because he was upset about the fire. Video does show a dumpster fire.

The witnesses believed this ignited the argument between Rittenhouse and the first victim. The complaint does not explain what authorities believe instigated that first argument. It’s certainly consistent with Rittenhouse’s behavior earlier in the night, though, as he was seen cleaning up graffiti, protecting a used car lot (used car lots had already been targets of serious vandalism and arson), and walking around with a medic bag.

“A person with the red shirt was arguing,” Delreno Jackson, one of those witnesses, said in an interview at the scene. Rosenbaum was wearing a red shirt that night. Jackson said that a garbage can was thrown after the shooter was upset that Black Lives Matter protesters were lighting a fire. We observed the garbage can lying toppled over in the street inside the crime scene tape. Video does mention a man in a red shirt being in a confrontation with Rittenhouse in the earlier shooting.

The criminal complaint alleges that Rosenbaum was trailing Rittenhouse, threw a plastic bag at him, initially tried to engage him, advanced toward him, and was trying to grab Rittenhouse’s gun when he was shot. It says that Rittenhouse, 17, was trying to evade Rosenbaum. The New York Times says a gunshot fired by an unknown person was heard right before Rittenhouse fired. Others were also chasing Rittenhouse at the time, video shows.

Some believe Rittenhouse has a self-defense argument, which would make the perceived or real dangerousness of men confronting or trailing him more arguably relevant.

The complaint says Huber was also trying to grab Rittenhouse’s gun and his skateboard made physical contact with Rittenhouse right before Rittenhouse shot him. Rittenhouse fell after being chased down the street, and photos and videos show him being struck with the skateboard as multiple people come toward him.

Huber’s loved ones have called him a hero, a narrative widely circulating online. Was he? Could the truth be complicated? Is it at least possible that Huber thought he was confronting an active shooter (which would certainly be a heroic act) because he didn’t see what happened in the earlier shooting with Rosenbaum, but Rittenhouse thought he was being attacked, first by Rosenbaum and then by Huber and others? Huber’s shooting occurred seconds after another unidentified man jumped at and over Rittenhouse, who fired at him, but missed, the complaint says. “Get his ass,” someone shouted around this time.

Grosskreutz was moving toward Rittenhouse when shot and holding a handgun, the complaint says.

There are certainly questions about why a 17 year old had also injected himself, without parental supervision, into a scene of criminal unrest, carrying a gun he wasn’t old enough to lawfully display. We would print Rittenhouse’s criminal history too, but the only thing that comes up for him in Wisconsin courts is two traffic tickets (and the extradition case in Illinois.) People are spreading the criminal record of another Kyle Rittenhouse around the Internet, but that man is much older and isn’t him.

For all of these reasons, we have decided not to censor the men’s criminal histories. You can decide how relevant you think they are, if at all:


Joseph Don Rosenbaum

Joseph rosenbaum & Anthony Huber
Joseph Rosenbaums Facebook profile picture.

Joseph Don Rosenbaum lived in Kenosha. He had an open case for misdemeanor bail jumping that was filed on July 30, 2020.

The conditions of bond read: “Not to Possess or Consume Alcohol. *Not To Possess or Consume Controlled Substances w/o a Prescription. No contact including the residence, electronic or 3rd party with: Kariann S, Park Ridge Inn.”

Rosenbaum also had open misdemeanor cases for battery (domestic abuse) and disorderly conduct (domestic abuse).

Joseph rosenbaum & Anthony Huber
Joseph D. Rosenbaum inmate photo from Arizona

News articles say Joseph “Jojo” Rosenbaum was the father of a 2 year old girl. He was 36-years-old. No Joseph Rosenbaum is found on the Wisconsin sex offender registry right now, but he may have been removed because he’s deceased. Screenshots and city databases show that he was on that registry for a sexual contact with a minor case out of Arizona.

We asked Wisconsin Department of Corrections if they had a Joseph Rosenbaum on the registry before and they said yes and they were notified he’s now deceased. See their response to us here:

The conviction date was 2002. It gives his nickname as JoJo.

We contacted the Arizona Department of Corrections, and they confirmed that the middle name and date of birth for the Arizona offender is the same as those of the Joseph Rosenbaum with the Kenosha address in Wisconsin court records. And the Facebook page of the Joseph Rosenbaum who was shot by Rittenhouse indicates he’s engaged to Kariann, confirming the CCAP entries. The Wisconsin and Arizona initial offense dates are also the same.

Wisconsin court record

The Arizona inmate page for Rosenbaum through the Department of Corrections there shows multiple violations for things like assaulting staff, throwing substances, assault by weapon, disobeying orders, and so on.

Arisona prison history for Joseph D. Rosenbaum.

His Facebook page confirms ties to Arizona and says he’s from Waco, Texas.

The complaint says that Rosenbaum did “initially try to engage the defendant. McGinnis (an eyewitness) stated that as the defendant was walking Rosenbaum was trying to get closer to the defendant. When Rosenbaum advanced, the defendant did a ‘juke’ move and started running,” according to the complaint. “McGinnis said that the unarmed guy (Rosenbaum) was trying to get the defendant’s gun. McGinnis demonstrated by extending both of his hands in a quick grabbing motion and did that as a visual on how Rosenbaum tried to reach for the defendant’s gun…McGinnis said that he definitely made a motion that he was trying to grab the barrel of the gun. McGinnis stated that the defendant pulled it away and then raised it.”


Gaige Paul Grosskreutz

Gaige Paul Grosskreutz has a forfeiture case for not showing obedience to officers, as well as one for loud noises.

He was convicted of a criminal misdemeanor in 2016 for going armed with a firearm while intoxicated. He gave a West Allis address.

People on social media are alleging that Grosskreutz is a Wisconsin felon. However, he has no felony convictions in the Wisconsin court system. This old archived web page alleges he was arrested on burglary charges, but nothing comes up in the court website for that case.

Online records show he’s affiliated with The People’s Revolution, the Milwaukee-area protest group that has been protesting at Mayfair Mall and elsewhere. The man accused of attacking and shooting at Wauwatosa Police Officer Joseph Mensah was also affiliated with that group.


Anthony M. Huber

anthony huber
Anthony Huber Facebook picture

Huber had a disorderly conduct conviction from 2018 as a domestic abuse repeater, which is a misdemeanor. He gave a Kenosha address. Here are the charges in that case.

940.19(1) Battery Misd. A Dismissed on Prosecutor’s Motion
Modifier: 939.62(1)(a) Repeater
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse

2 947.01(1) Disorderly Conduct Misd. B Guilty Due to Guilty Plea
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
Modifier: 939.62(1)(a) Repeater

He also had a forfeiture case for possessing drug paraphernalia.

Joseph Rosenbaum & Anthony Huber Criminal Records Explored
Huber mugshot in past case

He also had a case from 2012 with these charges:

1 941.30(2) 2nd-Degree Recklessly Endangering Safety Felony G Charge Dismissed but Read In
Modifier: 939.63(1)(c) Use of a Dangerous Weapon
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse

2 940.235(1) Strangulation and Suffocation Felony H Guilty Due to Guilty Plea
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse

3 940.30 False Imprisonment Felony H Guilty Due to Guilty Plea
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
Modifier: 939.63(1)(b) Use of a Dangerous Weapon

4 940.19(1) Battery Misd. A Charge Dismissed but Read In
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
Modifier: 939.63(1)(a) Use of a Dangerous Weapon

5 947.01(1) Disorderly Conduct Misd. B Charge Dismissed but Read In
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
Modifier: 939.63(1)(a) Use of a Dangerous Weapon

6 947.01(1) Disorderly Conduct Misd. B Charge Dismissed but Read In
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse

This is Huber’s incarceration history from the Wisconsin Department of Corrections.

There are no contact orders in those cases and he was ordered not to possess weapons.

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        1. They charged the Mccloskeys also for defending themselves ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY. Even tried to hide the fact that the handgun used to enhance the charge to a felony, was actually modified to a movie prop…it was not able to be fired. Those charges should have never been brought, but they were by an over zealous Democrat DA. Strictly for pandering. Where are those charges now?? That’s right, dismissed. The charges here are pretty much the same, to appease a hostile liberal mob.

        2. So we should just skip the trial then, right. I mean he was arrested, he must be guilty. No need to look into what lead to the shooting or anything like that. Right David?

        3. He was charged because a prosecutor will throw anything hoping that something will stick. The real question that was raised by Kyle’s attorney on Fox News is why isn’t Gaige Paul Grosskreutz being charged for assault with a deadly weapon as he pointed it at Kyle before Kyle shot him in the arm.

          1. And here is where the “good guy with a gun” antidote falls apart. When people are shooting, who’s the good guy? who’s the bad guy? Kyle just murdered two people, Huber see’s this, should he ask the two murdered people for their histories? or should he stop the active shooter? This is why the “good guy gun” argument is crap.

          2. You have no clue how prosecutor’s offices work. Conviction rate is of the utmost importance, especially come election time. They don’t just “throw anything hoping that something will stick”. That would get them butchered in campaign ads for having a horrendous conviction rate.

    1. “Kenosha Killer”. Kute

      Disregard this post People. It oozes with Sarcasm.

      Honestly though, Thank you for writing up a THOROUGH and THOUGHTFUL Report on these events.

    1. Somewhat surprisingly, the NYT did in fact do a good reporting job on this story, piecing together multiple videos to provide a mostly-complete sequence of events. This article actually uses and quotes that report.

  1. This is a well-balanced article. I am a black male, anti-Trump, anti-Biden, anti-riot. I have won Civil Rights trials and settled police abuse cases as an attorney in private practice (after I was a State atty) as noted below….
    https://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2010/03/ohio-court-of-claims-says-kingcast-knew.html

    …..and my online searches pretty much returned what you found and I have posted these things already. You correctly question KR’s involvement. You correctly note that both of the deceased have clear-cut patterns of aggro. I see NOTHING WRONG in your piece, except we have to think:

    “Wait a minute… would LE have had the same response to a black man in KR’s position as he just blithely strolls out of the shooting scene….”

    I wrote my sisters (both black as well):

    “Who are these fucking white boys up in here just tarnishing EVERYTHING. Can’t we have ANYTHING without WYPIPO f*cking it up? I have been diligently pulling records and sorting fact from fiction on the shooting “victims” and I’ll tell you what: First, they had serious criminal issues. Second, this kid might walk on self-defense even though he had no business crossing state lines with a weapon he was too young to have, to protect property not his own. These idiots are weakening my movement, a movement I started 30 years ago when I went to work for a black-owned newspaper and then went to law school and actually helped people instead of rioting and shit. https://newzandar.com/2020/08/28/lawyer-of-alleged-kenosha-shooter-kyle-rittenhouse-claims-self-defense-as-video-emerges/

    Regardless, crap like this is *PRECISELY* what Malcolm X warned about white liberals and it is detracting from clear-cut established Civil and Criminal instances of racism that BLM refused to give me a microphone about after the locals initially want me to speak.

    Hell you guys should interview me I’ve got something for you. Also I have written for a daily newspaper and edited a statewide weekly. Good Job here and I am posting it to my FB and going live on FB (who I am suing for censorship BTW) in 40 minutes.

    Sincerely
    Christopher King, J.D.

    1. I’m a liberal white woman and agree with you completely (as would just about everyone I know; Black, White, Latinx, Asian…) except I’m not sure, in this case, those shooting victims were even white liberals. I think they were aggro opportunists, tarnishing the entire cause, as you said. One of them used the n-word.

      Biden has spoken out about rioting and looting sucking all the air out of the legitimate reasons for the protest. I think he should make some trips to these areas, and/or work with locals on this. And yeah, The police fell down on the job too. The shooter looks like he’s about 12, wandering around with an unmissable gun. He takes the white-privilege prize, not even getting arrested while literally trying to.

      1. Biden doesn’t care about any of this, don’t you get it. 40+ years in dc and he’s done nothing but hurt this cause time and time again. He is only now condemning the riots because 99% of the population are rejecting this nonsense. Where was he the last 3 months since it started, oh yeah, he like the rest of the losers on the left, they have encouraged it and even kamala was promoting it, and the others like jerry nadler are denying this is even happening. The gaslighting your side does is off the charts yet you’re so brainwashed, you actually think Biden is doing something. Hilarious!! That’s why Biden criticizes trump for going to Kenosha, but then follows him there. The bullshit is so transparent and I’m kind of embarrassed for you people. Kyle is just taking out the trash.

    2. I think all people of conscience regardless of race are sick of this violence. The case was made and accepted a long time ago for increased police accountability. Calm, reasonable people need to polish the details. There are no reason for these continued riots. The officers who used excessive force need to be punished and they will. Let’s all work together to make our country better, not destroy it.

      1. “Use excessive force” is an excellent euphemism for “shot from behind” or shot sixteen times while asleep in her own living room” Or shot in the head while following instructions to the letter.”

        But if you want to see protests die down these users of excessive force need to be nabbed instantly. Same day pending investigation, for their own safety and the public’s’ Because every day thesee men walk around on the street only leads angry people to protest.

        By the way, a whole lot of anti-government and white nationalists all agree that there’s a real good reason for the riots, as does our president.
        And if they can get you to blame black people, so much the better.

        1. How about telling the full story:
          Breonna Taylor wa playing with fire and got burned by those consequences:
          -She was not alone in her apartment when she was shot.
          -She was shot after her boyfriend began shooting at the police after they knocked to serve the warrant and then proceeded to break down the door when no answer was given.
          -Her boyfriend shot a policeman in the leg through the door before they returned fire.
          -Her apartment had been under surveillance after numerous occassions where known drug dealers entered her residence and left with packages.
          -She was under suspicion when phone taps revealed that numerous phone calls were made to her implicating that she was given and holding money for several people currently in jail on drug and weapons charges.
          -She had bailed out several of these people from jail in the past.
          -Her vehicle was seen to be parked outside a known drug house on numerous occassions.
          While each of these circumstances doesn’t automatically make her guilty of anything, it does portray her as someone who was associated with several individuals involved in some criminal activity thus putting herself at some risk of being in harm’s way.

    3. If you are an attorney, then you understand the full faith and credit clause, correct? If KR had an Illinois FOID card (I will bet you a Hundred bucks he did), he could in his home state posses a long gun, correct? So, he can travel into WI and legally posses a long gun with his properly issued FOID card from Illinois. Illinois waives the FOID card requirement for non residents who enter Illinois with a firearm. So there is reciprocity to not apply the Illinois law to WI residents when it comes to gun possession while in Illinois, so I am gonna suggest under the FF&CC that WI has to allow KR to open carry a long gun in WI. Further, KR had his mother in WI with him, and 17 year olds can posses a gun in WI with parental supervision. I think you should be very careful saying KR was illegally carrying a gun, until he has been convicted of a crime. You should know better as you are an officer of the court!

    1. “murdered in cold blood” LOL, NOPE!

      It’s unfortunate that only 2 of the 3 he (Kyle) shot won the room temperature challenge that night. After his legal team gets all the BS charges against him dismissed, I hope he gets Lin Wood to sue all the fakenews clowns for defamation and gets millions like Nick Sandmann.

      1. So what you are saying is that a person that was firing a weapon he held illegally should be just let off?

        What if someone he knew had recognized him and said to him “hey you are breaking the law carrying that gun” and had tried to get it off him, and he had shot them? Still ok with you? Because as far as I know, disarming a criminal – ie someone carrying an ILLEGAL weapon – should have made those dead people the heroes, not Kyle, regardless of the fact they did not know he was illegally carrying.

        Because if that is still ok with you, then you seem also not to care about the law, and only about “what seems ok with you”, which makes you just as screwed up as that kid.

        1. Maybe learn and understand laws as well as read.

          The “illegal weapon” according to documents filed was not taken over state lines, it belonged to his friend

          The law in Wis is very vague in some aspects as it addresses directly 15-16 year old on how they are allowed to have a weapon but not 17 year olds.

          Under the Wis law, it’s a Class a Misdemeanor which at worst is a maximum 1 year in jail

          I misdemeanor does not automatically turn the other issues into a crime. He doesn’t cede his right to self defense because of the 1st infraction. For instance if you have a 12 year old at home and someone breaks into your home and he grabs a gun and kills them is he guilty of murder simply by virtue of getting a gun that he legally cannot posses (a felony for a handgun btw)

          Just because your feelings fall one way doesn’t make them fact under the law. The fact is that the intial contact by the first deceased was aggressive with the people guarding the gas station as then he aggressively pursued the kid. When he cornered him and attempted to reach for the gun (police reports) that is an aggressive move and legally it is self defense to pull the trigger. At that point Kyle did his duty to retreat under the law.

          the other 2 shot fall within the same parameters. The kid that got shot in the arm is quoted as saying “My only regret is not killing him and emptying the clip into him” (certainly sounds like reasonable force huh) LOL

          Facts matter, your feelings don’t

    2. That criminal record is for a different and much older male. If you bother to check facts, you would see that the 17 year old Kyle Rittenhouse has no prior criminal record! Of course that doesn’t fit your left wing narrative does it? Instead you try and dredge up some partial video footage of an argument (taken out of context) and use it to smear his name. Well sure, if you believe supporting arsonists, anarchists, communists, sex offenders and serial domestic abusers is better go ahead, it’s a free country. Just hope that the next BLM “protest” is in your neighbourhood and is also “fiery but mostly peaceful” .

      https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12527452/kyle-rittenhouse-shooting-suspect-criminal-record/

    3. The State of Wisconsin says the record you cite is that of a much older person of the same name – another Kyle Rittenhouse. The 17 year old’s consists of 2 traffic tickets and of course the extradition filing in IL.

    4. Wrong. Did you read the entire article? The article said the only thing he has is two traffic tickets. Whatever you posted has been deleted on Youtube. By the way the article states that there is another Kyle Rittenhouse going around on the internet it is not him not even the same age so you are mistaken sir

    5. This is what happens when people do their research from the couch in their pajamas.
      Your links are so solid that they’ve been removed by Youtube.

  2. So basically this was a case of vigilantism? Kyle went to Kenosha to kill these two for their past criminal records which they already served time for. He thought it would be ok to get an extra pound of flesh under the guise of protecting property. In addition to endangering bystanders who weren’t doing anything. Right?

    1. Steve, that comment wins “Most Stupid Comment of the Day on the Internet” prize. Stay tuned to see how you do in the week, month, and year, contests.

  3. so is this motive or are you framing this to look like Kyle had every right to kill this guy because of what he did in the past?

    1. That’s pretty much what they are saying. They keep saying those men were scum, so it doesn’t really matter that he killed them. So many trump supporters are calling this boy a hero, someone to look up to. I’ve seen it everywhere, especially in replies to trump tweets. They may deny it in this comment sections, but the facebook and twitter comments say otherwise.

  4. So. @#$%ing. What.

    Did Rittenhouse know what these men did?

    He shot at THREE RANDOM MEN not knowing who they were or what crimes they may or have may not committed. They could very easily have been people who weren’t even involved in the demonstrations and just happened to be in the wrong place. And yet you’re going to defend him just because we learn AFTER the fact they had criminal records?

    And the fact you’re still criminalizing them is against the very thing that our justice system is supposed to stand for. If these men paid their debt to society as ordered in their sentencing

    This was NOT an act of self-defense. He DROVE HALF AN HOUR ACROSS STATE LINES with a semi-automatic rifle to deliberately and willfully put himself in this position.

    Oh wait, no, he didn’t drive. HIS MOM DROPPED HIM OFF.

    The pasts of these men is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT and just part of the same cycle of victim blaming used to defend gung-ho cops using excessive force by saying, “Well he committed a burglary 20 years ago so if he hadn’t he’d never have been in this position.”

    1. “He shot at THREE RANDOM MEN” LOL, NOPE!

      He deliberately engaged hostile threats with the appropriate level of force for the given circumstance after positively identifying each threat in need of some ballistic therapy…
      It’s unfortunate that only 2 of the 3 he shot won the room temperature challenge that night. After his legal team gets all the BS charges against him dismissed, I hope he gets Lin Wood to sue all the fakenews clowns for defamation and gets a nice payday like Nick Sandmann.

      1. Kyle only shot the 3rd guy after the guy advanced in him a second time. U can see he did nothing when the 3rd guy put his hands up, even holding a gun. He only shot the 3rd guy after the guy had his hands up and decided to advance. He also shot the hand of the guy, where he had the gun. I think this is the best self defense evidence – why r everyone missing it? He could have shot the 3rd guy b4, but did not, waited and only fired when the guy advanced on him. Note he did not shot anyone not advancing on him..

    2. HE shot at 3 random men? Random? No, they were not random, they were all attacking him, they had no business attacking him, period. End of sentence. There’s no ifs, and, buts, or ors to it. They all 3 attacked him, 2 of them died in the process. And to tell you how stupid they were, the first one attacked him, and was shot, so the second one said “that looks like fun” and attacked him with a skateboard, (Who TF attacks an armed person with a skateboard?) That didn’t work out well either, so an even brainier guy says “hold my beer, I wouldn’t want to spill it” and launches his own attack while himself illegally armed.

      If Kyle did anything, he cleaned the gene pool up just a little.

      1. If I were a BLM supporter, the last thing I would want is for people to think that the three violent felons who attacked Kyle were a statistically random sample of the protestor population.

        Rosenbaum wasn’t just your average sex offender either. He molested five boys between the ages of 9-11, including anal and oral rape and forcing them to commit sex acts on each other. The fact that he died chasing a baby-faced minor for over a block and attacking him shouldn’t come as a surprise, yet reprobate liars keep trying to insist Kyle “shot him randomly” despite the crystal clear video evidence proving Kyle’s innocence.

        Here is an example of how Joseph Rosenbaum behaved around minors given half the chance:
        https://ibb.co/h9NKs9L
        https://ibb.co/5xvfps9
        https://ibb.co/DRyf5N6
        https://ibb.co/ckVyRLT
        https://ibb.co/0C5K01T

    3. its never a good idea to taunt and harrass anyone with a loaded gun,if brains were dynamite these folks couldnt blow there nose

  5. Looks to me like self defense. The rioters seem to have been upset they were prevented from destroying things and tried to harm Kyle for that reason. Rosenbaum appears suicidal. Huber out if control generally. I think Grosskreutz intended to shoot Kyle in the back. Thank you for info MSM simply will not give.

  6. sorry, but Illinois Law provides parental consent to possess firearms to any individual aged 16 or more in possession of a FOID Card ( A Firearms ID ) as valid and legal to carry. is it called the “Note from the Parent” Clause for possession of a firearm by a minor.

    Wisconsin law allows down to the age of 12 to open carry a firearm whilst for hunting purposes, but, also allows consent to possess a long gun firearm.

    Furthermore, since Kyle is a resident of Illinois and was in Wisconsin and the rifle registered to an adult in Wisconsin, the 2017 Federal Reciprocity Act legally allows transfer of possession of a firearm with no minimum age restriction.

    Kyle was not there on his own, in fact, his mother is who provided the transportation to the incident to be with his fellow militia men. the car dealership has been proven to be that of a friend/family friend and the militia was asked to be there guarding it.

    Kyle was attacked not once, but 3 individual times with deadly devices, that absolves him of countering with lethal force in return.

    Grosskreutz was criminally charged whilst in possession of a firearm, that disqualifies him as a legal firearms carrier.

    941.29(4) (4) A person is concerned with the commission of a crime, as specified in s. 939.05 (2) (b), in violation of this section if he or she knowingly furnishes a person with a firearm in violation of this section.

    He has proven in this instance, that he is guilty of

    941.29(8) (8) This section does not apply to any person specified in sub. (1m) (bm) if a court subsequently determines that the person is not likely to act in a manner dangerous to public safety. In any action or proceeding regarding this determination, the person has the burden of proving by a preponderance of the evidence that he or she is not likely to act in a manner dangerous to public safety.

    he fired a round into the air unknowing of where it would land and potentially causing collateral injury or damage.

    that willfully disqualifies him to be lawfully in possession of a firearm.

  7. Thank you for the honest article.
    You did well with showing light on an aspect of the story without demonizing or adding unnecessary and dramatic language.

    1. You act like this was an execution. It was self-defense from two separate attacks.

      Rosenbaum charged down Kyle for about a block, cornered, him, and grabbed his gun as he finally turned around while continuing to evade. That’s a lethal force attack, and Kyle shot his attacker at the last possible moment before he might have been killed himself.

      Then a mob showed up, misinterpreted the situation, and chased him down trying to extrajudicially murder him, when he was fleeing toward the cops and not a danger to anyone. They shouted, “Get that motherf***er” to get him running, “Cranium that boy!” while he was running, and “Get his a**!” when he fell down, shortly after someone hit him from behind with some object.

      The mob’s attack on Kyle was not justifiable and cannot be legitimately construed as “taking down an active shooter.” He was fleeing, not harming anyone, and nobody knew the truth of what had previously happened. Those are not the kind of circumstances that justify chasing a kid down and mob-attacking him with lethal force.

      All of the following then unfolded in the few seconds that Kyle was vulnerable on the ground:
      When Kyle was on the ground, some guy jump-kicked him in the face. That’s lethal force. Kyle appears not to have shot in this case, but it’s unclear from the video.
      Huber immediately ran up and hit Kyle in the head with his skateboard while he was on the ground, which is a lethal force attack that has permanently maimed and killed people. Huber then tried to grab Kyle’s gun, and Kyle finally fired at the last possible moment, killing him.
      Grosskreutz then faked a surrender with his hands up from several feet away. Kyle trained his gun on him but did not fire, proving he was trying to avoid as much bloodshed as possible. Grosskreutz then suddenly advanced toward Kyle with his pistol, attempting to execute him. Kyle fired a single shot to disarm him at the last possible moment once again, and did not fire any other shots once the threat had ceased.
      Another would-be attacker then backed off. Kyle did not fire. Kyle noticed another would-be attacked standing on the side of the road with a bat. Kyle did not fire.

      Finally, Kyle walked down the street to turn himself in, with gunshots going off all around him, possibly toward him.

      The only people trying to extrajudicially murder anyone were Kyle’s attackers. He may not be a total angel every day of his life, but he showed amazing decency and restraint on August 25th. Anyone claiming he was going around shooting people randomly is not just a liar, but a completely reprobate bearer of false witness.

  8. Kyle Rittenhouse also has a criminal history. Interesting that you wrote an article detailing the criminal histories of the three victims, but left out the criminal history of the alleged murderer.

    1. Right there in the article:

      “We would print Rittenhouse’s criminal history too, but the only thing that comes up for him in Wisconsin courts is two traffic tickets (and the extradition case in Illinois.) People are spreading the criminal record of another Kyle Rittenhouse around the Internet, but that man is much older and isn’t him.”

    2. Please link to it, all I’ve seen is a couple traffic things. Not saying it couldn’t be but it looks like the kid idolized cops and may even have wanted to be one. I would think he’d have kept himself squeaky clean if thats the case

  9. Your question to “There are certainly questions about why a 17 year old had also injected himself, without parental supervision, into a scene of criminal unrest, carrying a gun he wasn’t old enough to lawfully display.” You wouldn’t expect a 17 year old to have parental supervision and more than likely he had the gun as hopes of avoiding any aggression against him. Think goodness he was smart enough to carry it loaded or he would be dead too. Yes, he was under the legal age, but his life is more important and patriotism drove the reason he was there to protect the community. If I am not mistaken-it is illegal to burn down property or assault people; when is the law to stop them? It is obvious he was there to protect businesses and also give any medical help to “anyone.” He had no malice.

    1. He may feel a desire to get involved out of patriotism or whatever other motive but he is still a vigilante. We give cops an official role precisely because we don’t want untrained people inserting themselves into explosive situations. No matter what his intentions were, Kyle Rittenhouse had neither the training nor the experience (and probably not the maturity) to cope with what was going down in Kenosha.

      1. This is exactly what you want. You want to defund and get rid of the police. So who is going to take their place? Who is going to protect you now? An angry mob, a citizen with a gun? Bad argument!

      2. Well,despite being only 17, he was obviously quite able to cope with what was going down in Kenosha. A self defense instructor would struggle to write a better realistic story about how to properly defend yourself when confronted with an angry mob.

        YOU may not want other people around protecting you and/or your property, but a huge part of “we” would gladly accept “untrained people” helping watch over us and our property. There are not even remotely close to enough police officers to guard everyone and everything all the time. Like so few officers per household that you will statistically never get help when you need it during any sort of riot. Even if police could magically teleport and had a 0 second response time, what do you do when you are caller #2694 to 911 and there are 300 officers? Hope that the rioters take a break for a few hours until it’s your turn in the queue? Doesn’t sound like a very well thought out plan for ensuring your safety. Vigilantes to help keep me, my family, and my business safe? Yes please. Sign me up for 10 Kyle Rittenhouses. 20 if they will work for food.

  10. Your question to “There are certainly questions about why a 17 year old had also injected himself, without parental supervision, into a scene of criminal unrest, carrying a gun he wasn’t old enough to lawfully display.” You wouldn’t expect a 17 year old to have parental supervision and more than likely he had the gun as hopes of avoiding any aggression against him. Think goodness he was smart enough to carry it loaded or he would be dead too. Yes, he was under the legal age, but his life is more important and patriotism drove the reason he was there to protect the community. If I am not mistaken-it is illegal to burn down property or assault people; where is the law to stop them? It is obvious he was there to protect businesses and also give any medical help to “anyone.” He had no malice.

  11. WTH? Are you kidding me? Did the murderer know what awful people his victims were? hmmm maybe it was Jeebus instructing “One Punch” Rittenhouse (Little Kyle likes to punch girls as a recent video clip demonstrates) who instructed him to shoot these guys because they were bad men and Leftists to boot. Rosenbaum was 18 at the time of his arrest and with literally NO details on how old the girl was (this could have been a statutory rape case we don’t know) at any rate, his past is irrelevant, at 5’3 he must have been a real scary figure, and he threw a bag at Rittenhouse, so clearly he had to be executed.

    1. I’ve been saying the same thing. 17 and 18 year olds can be convicted even if she’s 16 and there’s a six month age difference. That is what sucks about this situation, we don’t know. We do know that justifying shooting people and killing people based on their criminal history afterwards is exactly why these protests began, the police killed/injured people and some people screaming ALM pick apart and dehumanize the victims. Changes need to be made.

  12. Can the author please detail to us his criminal record? As well as the criminal records of the editors? We need to know that in order to determine if this information is at all true.

    1. The fact is, even with supporting video evidence, none of the comments represent actual witness testimony about the situation in progress, which is what the surviving victim and shooter was responding to in that moment. When you find yourself overwhelmed my violent intent against you and your weapon, it is time to choose to use or lose. If this had been unarmed killings by martial arts or a knife, this kid would be deemed a Rambo not a murderer. The one skinhead is ASKING to be shot. Now that tells me he is in a homocidal/suicidal psychosis or subject to some sort of mind control, which is real, patented technology from the 1960s. Come to realize dear sheeple…
      Medicine [like those that cause suicidal ideation and more] given to addicts and criminals.
      Technology [brain wave sensing devices that control wheelchairs and drones, can also communicate to the brain, implanting thoughts & feelings unaware to the target] patented
      Elon Musk announced Pig brain interface tech.
      Law [everything Hilter did to the Jews was codified in law in Gernany…essentially legalizing genocide. Abortion, euthanasia, vaccinations, mandatory immunization at birth, now they want to force masks and distancing] tyranny under law
      Entertainment [subliminal messages are known to be effective at social change, forcing digitalized TV over analog signals improves mind control capabilities by v-chip technology, enhancing images easier and deep fakes are easily created by AI, artificial technology. It’s all automatic, no human rights involved.
      Social media [denying privacy, tracking intellectual, social, medical, financial and personal habits, behaviors and spending, storing it away to the letter, time and location of every transaction, eavesdropping on even your conversations when your device is not in use to provide suggestions and trending topics targetting your words. YOU ARE BEING MONITORED CONTINOUSLY BY AI, then by humans if you trigger a keyword, location or time or combos in suspicion. Literally the THOUGHT POLICE, brought to you by Google, CIA and the global elite deep state players] AMAZON too.
      More, but the result is the same, victimize the poor, ignorant and easily manipulated to achieve evil ends for profit and power without regard to life or suffering of others.

      1. Thank you diligent researcher, for bringing truth to light. This IS journalism. We are the news now. Trust your heart, move into it more, as your work is thorough and near the point of neutrality. But in pursuit of justice, one is always bias to truth and evidence over emotion and speculation.
        Do more, keep going, encourage others by teaching how to research facts, not falling prey to ignorance by believing the talking heads on tv.
        WELL DONE TRUTHER.

  13. Thank you. You fellas have done a better job investigating this terrible incident than the entire National Press Corp combined. Seriously!

    1. No their past shows the type of peaceful protesters they were.

      They were rioters and destroyers of properties and businesses…

      And if a black man run from police and get shot 7 times it is the police fault. If a white male runs away, while being attacked and after the attack uses what he has at hand to fend off the attackers, it is his fault?

      Blake did not stop when officers had guns on him. I am white and if police have guns to my head..l i will freak out and not move… but if i can not be 5ouchec ( the current way black people feels nowdays) i will defy police and turn my back to them and send them a clear message: shoot me in the back! That is blake case! He did what he felt fit. He challenge police becayse they are white officers… this is not floyd. Very different.

  14. Leave law enforcement to police, not untrained 17 year olds with firearms. I saw enough of this crap in the 60’s . In the military, we learned to handle an m1. We served our country, but not so 17 year old kids have the right to shoot first and ask questions later. I and thousands of others did not serve our country during the Vietnam war, so lawless vigilantes could do as they damn please. What part of “a well regulated militia” don’t you people understand? Two people are DEAD. That cannot be undone. Kyle Rittenhouse,, you’ve ended two people’s lives. You are not a judge, or a police officer, or a court of law. Irregardless of what those men did before, you will pay for your actions sooner or later. This whole article was written to spread hate and discontent, and it is doing quite well. I’ve got news for all you self-appointed militia groups: when teotwaki becomes the reality you seem to be pushing, it sure as hell won’t be better for anyone in this country, including you.

    1. You are so wrong it is hard to decide where to begin. Those shot had no respect for the Police. They instigated the attacks, (there were two, and he was retreating from both.). He shot because he was being attacked. It does not matter if the attackers were unarmed. What you, and your friends in the MSM need to understand is that “unarmed” is not synonymous with “harmless”. Had he not responded as he did, he may well have been killed. How was he to know?

      It is the leadership of these cities and states that bear the blame. Peaceful protest is one thing, burning and looting should never be tolerated. Violence and destruction negate all the protesters are gathering for.

      1. “he may well have been killed?” really. I see so many MAGA folks claiming this like it’s an established fact or a reasonable thing to assume but it ridiculous. Just because a bunch of politicans got up at the RNC and said a bunch of fascist fear-mongering does not mean it’s reasonable to assume these folks are an imminent threat of death. No one was out there killing folks in Kenosha other than this shooter.

        What y’all conveniently ignore is that a civilian does not have the same discretion to use lethal force that a police officer gets. “How was he to know?” is not an excuse. A civilian is legally required not to use lethal force unless you are literally about to die.

        According to the self-defense statute in Wisconsin, the ONLY time a person gets latitude to presume lethal for ce could be necessary is when they are inside their own home and a person has broken-in entered. You are ONLY allowed to use as much for as is appropriate to end an encounter. Lethal force is ONLY justified when faced with the threat of “imminent death.” MAGA folks seem to be really confused about what “imminent” means. It doesn’t mean you literally have to be about to die: gun to your head, knife to your throat. Second, lethal force “self-defense” is not justifiable when a person is engaged in a criminal act likely to provoke an attack. This is explicitly mentioned in Wisconsin’s self-defense statute. Rittenhouse had just fled the scene of a crime. That is a crime. Yes, he called the cops but he did not have the right to flee the scene with an assault weapon.

        Rittenhouse had just killed someone and fled the scene and in MAGA world “attacking” that person is somehow less of an act of defense as killing that person attempting to disarm a literal vigilante killer?

        What y’all desperately need to understand is that citizens do not get the same latitude to use force that an officer does. The same “perceived threat” defense does not have as much traction when you are a civilian engaged in a criminal act.

        1. Your use of (and obvious hatred of) the term MAGA shows that it has triggered some deep bias from you, if not hatred, for anyone that agrees with it, possibly even hatred for anyone not condemning it.
          So what exactly does KR need to wait for to determine “imminent danger” to his life? The fact you want to paint the protestors as peaceful young people simply trying to disarm him while not causing him any harm is completely absurd. You’re either dumb as a post or brainwashed so incredibly bad you can’t see straight. Keep trying to warp facts to fit your narrative you pathetic tool.

    2. Ask
      What was a 17 year old doing with a rifle?
      And ask
      Why was 3 convicted felons in the “peaceful” protest? Had they stayed home, we not be talking about them. The conviction shows their characters. They were likely there in the protest to as per their record, improve their record with a few more lines.

  15. Leave law enforcement to police, not untrained 17 year olds with firearms. I saw enough of this crap in the 60’s . In the military, we learned to handle an m1. We served our country, but not so 17 year old kids have the right to shoot first and ask questions later. I and thousands of others did not serve our country during the Vietnam war, so lawless vigilantes could do as they damn please. What part of “a well regulated militia” don’t you people understand? Two people are DEAD. That cannot be undone. Kyle Rittenhouse,, you’ve ended two people’s lives. You are not a judge, or a police officer, or a court of law. Irregardless of what those men did before, you will pay for your actions sooner or later. This whole article was written to spread hate and discontent, and it is doing quite well. I’ve got news for all you self-appointed militia groups: when teotwawki becomes the reality you seem to be pushing, it sure as hell won’t be better for anyone in this country, including you.

    1. Well, buddy, I’m one of those thoussnds who served during Vietnam, and I’m proud as hell of Kyle. Talk about your Audie Murphys, Wyatt Earps or Jim Bowies! This kid is right up there. The Kenosha OK Corral!

  16. If you’re a convicted felon, you can’t disarm someone of a firearm without committing another felony…. Can You?

    1. Plus…

      You have the right to peacefully protest.

      I have the right to peacefully (and without being attacked) to bear arms.

  17. Blowing away 3 pos commies is a service to the community. The kid had balls for miles. How many videos have we seen with these commie scum swarming on defenseless whites. Finally some payback. You know what, he inspired many across the nation. Time to saddle up. I just wish the last shot would have been to the face of commie #3. He ain’t playin the piano anymore.

    1. Obviously just a bait post by a sociopath.

      I’ll say one of my points again for everyone else: He was firing a gun in a residential zone, paying no attention to where the rounds were going to go because he has no training and was basically pissing himself because people were trying to disarm him and stop him from killing someone else.

      Any of those rounds could have missed nearby target and just have gone and killed someone a thousand meters away in their own house, simply because some brat was in a place he was not supposed to be, with a weapon he was not legally allowed to own.

      The only thing he deserves is jail time.

      1. Was the jumping kick aimed at his head while he was lying on the ground, just like trying to whack him in the head with a skateboard added bonuses of them “trying to disarm him”?

        While he was retreating/running away towards the police and was clearly not trying in instigate anything.
        Why were those people trying to disarm him in the first place? Were they police or trained security guards of the area?

        Rittenhouse on the other hand was asked to be there by the local recidents and had a gun given to him by those locals. He at least had the valid reason why he was there, to e.g. prevent them burning down the gas station they tried to do.

        What was the antifa-BLM doing in that area in the very first place? Local people clearly did not want them to be there, that why they asked Rittenhouse to help in the first place.

    1. There would not have been a need for him to defend himself had he not opened fire on someone that was not being a direct threat to his life. Having someone yell at you is not enough reason to shoot them in the head.

      Any attack to his person that came after that is simply people assuming that he will just shoot someone else, and that he should disarmed before he does so.

      Do you even know where those munitions went to after they were fired? Or killed that first individual? He opened fire in a built up area There is LITERALLY houses all around. Those rounds could have killed a child inside his own house even a thousand meters away. I guess if THAT had also happened you would not be here spouting your bullshit argument that he’s a “fine young man”.

  18. Here is some advice from a European outsider. Black lives matter protests would be better off WITHOUT adrenaline fueled males who are there so they can act out their aggressive impulses. The three victims of the Kenosha shooting at least all seem to have had serious aggression issues. No, this does not excuse their being shot, but BLM needs some sort of organization that prevents these aggressive types from hijacking the movement. The protests getting out of hand and becoming a playing field for guys who enjoy a good riot plays right into the hands of Trump and the Republican party. Trump has already announced that he will not concede in case he loses. If that happens you had better keep rioters like these guys in check because they will just give Trump an excuse to declare a state of emergency and call his armed supporters to the streets. And that will be the end of your democracy.

    1. The main point of the article is that these guys were no angels. That has nothing to do with anything else, like self-defense.

  19. HE shot at 3 random men? Random? No, they were not random, they were all attacking him, they had no business attacking him, period. End of sentence. There’s no ifs, and, buts, or ors to it. They all 3 attacked him, 2 of them died in the process. And to tell you how stupid they were, the first one attacked him, and was shot, so the second one said “that looks like fun” and attacked him with a skateboard, (Who TF attacks an armed person with a skateboard?) That didn’t work out well either, so an even brainier guy says “hold my beer, I wouldn’t want to spill it” and launches his own attack while himself illegally armed.

    If Kyle did anything, he cleaned the gene pool up just a little.

  20. One thing is clear, even when presented with facts the left wing rioting socialist animals all have the same conclusion criminals who attack citizens and burn car lots are protected while decent law abiding citizens are not LOL Wow I hope we divide and the left can pay for their agenda and the right can live in peace

  21. This “protest” sure got un-peaceful in a hurry. It seems there are some aggressive people attending these protests for other nefarious reasons other than actually protesting which in turn brings the armed vigilantes out. It’s the ying and the yang blue vs red, etc etc. Maybe a 17 year old with a rifle shouldn’t have been there, but it’s too late now. Maybe three guys who tried to engage with him (however so) who happened to have criminal records shouldn’t have been there either, but again, it’s too late now. If anything is learned here, if you’re anything like the suspect or the victims maybe you should sit the next protest out if it’s happening in a city near you. Go online and fight each other like the rest of us.

  22. I know this: “Kenosha was armed to teeth that night” (quote from another article on your website).

    I know this: hundreds of “armed to the teeth” individuals were within arms reach of thousands of unruly protestors all night long, and 100% of the ones with licenses to own their weapon and carry it legally, made it home without shooting anybody in the back of the head.

  23. It is never a good idea to mess with a bull with sharp horns. These men messed with the wrong bull and they got the horns for their stupidity. Attacking a man with a gun who is trying to flee is like chasing a female grizzly bear with cubs it will end in your demise. Adrenaline clearly impairs judgement is all I have learned about this case. Be nice, be kind and be respectful to all and you won’t end up like these men.

  24. Jim & Jessica,
    Thanks very much for the thoughtful counter to the Mke Journal-Sentinel’s self-serving editorial about why they DON’T talk about previous criminal records. They apparently don’t think that doing 10+ years of hard prison time, or repeated felony assault/wife-beating convictions would be relevant to someone having a predisposition to unprovoked violence and aggression.

    Well done.

  25. The men having records should not be an excuse because the minute Kyle began walking the streets with a weapon he was too young to have he was a criminal in that instance. We don’t live in the 1800s; we don’t have frontier justice were random people can just go out and take the law into their own hands. We can’t allow that to happen because what stops it from rolling out of control? We already have people starting altercations with others and then shooting them when it doesn’t go the way they expected. I will use Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman as an example. George had no business approaching Trayvon. George was not a cop, not given any authority, but when he did and things didn’t go well he then killed Trayvon. George wasn’t a hero.

    Kyle is no different. Kyle had no legal authority to be there armed. It could be argued that Kyle being there armed is an act of aggression because he presents a clear and present danger. I don’t consider a person armed with a rifle, loaded and ready, to be not a threat in some capacity. His very presence promoted fear, which would lead to events happening. We don’t allow people under a certain age to have a weapon because their judgement isn’t there. There is video of Rosenbaum yelling at other armed men, and them walking past him despite his aggressive behavior.

    Kyle, again, a minor, who is not old enough to own a weapon, didn’t have the composure or the judgement to know when to discharge or when to back away. Even if someone threw a plastic bag at him, that isn’t reason to respond with deadly force. Kyle caused an incident. He is not innocent or committing a crime, and it doesn’t matter if the men he shot had a record. Kyle himself was a criminal as well.

    You are a lawyer, and I think you know that character isn’t used in trial much because it is irrelevant. The court is supposed to recognize that someone having a history doesn’t mean they continue on with their behavior. That is part of the innocent before proven guilty.

    People praising shining a light on the men shot, do so to create a narrative because their past records have nothing to do with that evening. The only things that matter that evening is what happened.

    1. Thing is that they got shot because their current behaviour. Rittenhouse had no idea of their past crimes while they were attacking him while he was lying on the ground.

      “Kyle is no different. Kyle had no legal authority to be there armed. It could be argued that Kyle being there armed is an act of aggression because he presents a clear and present danger.”
      “His very presence promoted fear, which would lead to events happening.”

      Grosskreutz also had a gun. Why? He also had a criminal history with one unlike Rittenhouse.

      “He (Grosskreutz ) was convicted of a criminal misdemeanor in 2016 for going armed with a firearm while intoxicated.”

      What was Grosskreutz motivation to have a gun and why did he not promote similar fear and “lead to events happening”?

      Or did you just forget him for some convenient reason?

      Do you usually consider attacking people who are armed? I have traveled around the world and seeing numerous times various people with different kinds of weapons. Somehow those do not trigger me and cause me to act and cause things to people around me. But I do not also try to e.g. burn down gas stations like those antifa-BML people did so what do I know?

      Every piece of evidence we have seen have shown that Rittenhouse only used the gun as self defense when he could not run anymore while he was on the ground and those people started physically attacking him like trying to kick him in the face. He only shot those people who actively came directly at him.

      He e.g. had two good opportunities to kill Grosskreutz. Before and after Grosskreutz had attacked him but he only shot Grosskreutz to the arm and when there was no imminent danger anymore Rittenhouse de-escalated the situation and surrendered himself peacefully to the police.

      Unlike those three other people. If Rittenhouse had behaved like they did all of them would be dead Grosskreutz included. But Rittenhouse did not attack someone who was no direct threat to him, unlike they did.

      They were the ones actively chasing Rittenhouse and shouting ‘Get him’ etc. instead of e.g. letting police handle the guy if he was “active shooter” or what ever the claim is.

  26. Looks like Kyle was just taking out the trash. RosenBaum was a 5 time pedo-rapist. He only served a few years. What kind of justice system do we have when pedo scum get less time than tax evaders??? Sorry but I have no sympathy for any of these victims and karmic justice was served to Jacob Blake. He is still alive, yet won’t be able to sexually abuse again!!

  27. This is probably the most balanced account of this incident I’ve seen. Thank you for being upfront with what is know, not known, and different interpretations of each. However, one thing was left out: Rosenbaum was convicted of 3 Felony sexual abuse of a minor in Arizona in 2002 and sentenced for 16 years, which is where his conduct report came from. His inmate number is #172556 and you can find it on the same Arizona inmate page.

  28. Leaving open the possibility that Huber and Grosskreutz may have been motivated by good intentions makes zero sense. Why you might ask?

    1. A squad of police were standing down (but ready to mobilize in an instant) in various vehicles at an intersection about a hundred yards in full sight of Huber and Grosskreutz before Rittenhouse shot them.

    2. Rittenhouse was running toward the police from an angry mob which included the two men he shot.

    3. Rather than allow Rittenhouse to reach the police and inform police he was the shooter, Huber and Grosskreutz tried to stop him which would have enabled said angry mob to assault Rittenhouse with the likelihood of great bodily injury or death.

  29. “Why We’ve Decided to Tell You the Criminal Records of the Men Shot in Kenosha”

    Yeah, why? Your answer was: “We think the public is entitled to know all of the context to properly understand what unfolded that night.”

    What?? Meaning that unrelated crimes like disorderly conduct make it obvious that these two deserved to be shot by a teenager?

    Where is the logic, here? That vigilante justice makes sense after the fact when you know and can say, “he was no angel.”

    The rule of law means nothing? We can just shoot people with criminal records and it’s just fine?

    And all this is based on “facts” not being publicized anywhere else but here?

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